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The Vice Presidential Debate

Posted on Thursday, October 8, 2020
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debateVice President Mike Pence and Senator Kamala Harris met last night at the University of Utah for their only Vice Presidential debate. It was a 90-minute affair hosted by USA Today Washington Bureau Chief Susan Page.

Senator Harris labored throughout the night to blame the Trump Administration for the coronavirus pandemic. She called the Administration’s response a “failure” while feigning an outraged look as she spoke directly to the Vice President. She attempted to place the oft-disputed total number of US coronavirus deaths at the foot of the Trump Administration while the Vice President responded with one of several well-placed counter blows.

After Harris described how a Biden Administration would have handled the onset of the pandemic earlier this year, Pence said that their plan looked a lot like what President Trump and he were already doing. In a response that rattled Harris and referenced Biden’s 1988 failed Presidential bid, he said their plan sounded a lot like plagiarism, something he noted that the former Vice President should be familiar with.

When questioned about the forthcoming coronavirus vaccine, Harris said that she would take it only if it were approved by physicians and that she would not take it if President Trump instructed the nation to do so. Pence seized the opportunity to shame Harris, calling her attempt to undermine the confidence in the vaccine “unconscionable.”

Vice President Pence was calm and in control with a track record of facts, although he did interrupt her at times during the event. Harris was caught in several lies that were immediately called out by Pence including her campaign’s pledge to rescind the Trump tax cuts and ban fossil fuels and fracking. Her lies combined with her continuation of false narratives like the President’s statements about the Charlottesville protest in 2017 prompted another superbly landed response from the Vice President that he used more than once when he told her she was “entitled to your own opinion, but … not entitled to your own facts.”

Harris managed to work in reliable progressive talking points like “free college” and “cutting student loan debt” while using scare tactics when she looked directly into the camera and gravely announced that the Trump Administration is “coming for you” if you have a preexisting health condition.

While Harris painted a doom and gloom scenario during the discussion about climate change, calling it an “existential threat,” Pence countered with how the Administration’s fracking initiative lowered CO2 emissions via natural gas innovations.

Pence also rightfully characterized Biden as a cheerleader for China and contrasted his compliance with the communist regime with the Trump Administration’s record of standing up to it.

While Harris was looking smug, arrogant and using a condescending tone, Pence dismantled her police reform rhetoric by pointing out her filibuster of Senator Tim Scott’s police reform legislation. He also called out Harris’ non-existent record on criminal justice reform during her time as the Attorney General of California. The Vice President directly asked Harris if she would pack the Supreme Court if elected and when she ignored his question, he noted her non-response.

Moderator Susan Page was barely better than Chris Wallace who moderated the first Presidential debate, but still limited some of the Vice President’s response time. She also appeared to manufacture her own facts about the economy, calling the recovery slower than expected despite the robust September jobs report, something Pence should have highlighted. Pence did use an effective tactic when he used his time during other questions to counter previous Harris falsehoods while also addressing the question’s issue. Hopefully, his boss will consider adopting this technique.

As the debate wound down, Page asked the Vice President what he would do should President Trump refuse a “peaceful transfer of power,” and he delivered one of the best lines of the night when he said that Harris and her party have spent the last three years trying to undue the results of the 2016 election. He also referenced Hillary Clinton’s very public advice that Biden should under no circumstances concede the election.

Game, set, match and debate victory – Vice President Mike Pence.

Andrew Mangione is Senior Vice President for AMAC’s advocacy affiliate, AMAC Action. He leads AMAC’s grassroots efforts, represents AMAC’s membership in Washington, D.C., and helps chart the association’s policy course. He also serves as a national spokesperson.

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John Hunt
John Hunt
5 years ago

Can anyone tell me why the Presidential Debate Committee won’t include a conservative moderator for a change? Or why the END puts up with only liberal moderators?

Louise Albertson
Louise Albertson
5 years ago

I totally support Donald Trump. He is not perfect but does a great job under the duress caused by the liberals. I can just them them when they were nominated jumping up and down like the fools they are. I am going to run for President, etc. Our President has more brain power in one eye lash than those other two have in their total body. If they would stop harassing him he would really show them. Those democrats are self centered and not concerned with the damage they cause with their laws and votes. No values, no brain function. If you look at some much of the damage and hypocrisy out there, as I see it (the wall, etc.) sending our medicine to China to be manufactured and the list goes on, democrats again. no wonder someone gave them the symbol of a jack __ -__.

JoVon
JoVon
5 years ago

I tried to listen to the debate but a lot of subject matter is over my head, in that I’m not that immersed in the minute pieces of what makes it so. I sort of have an idea of what’s happening, however, but not really that astute.
Thus, what I noticed was what I wondered, “am I being paranoid?” or did I pick up something/s.
First, it became very apparent the moderator was more fond of Harris, in that it seemed to me Harris had “ample” time to give answers, whereas, it appeared that V.P. Pence did not. I’d love to see a clock w/a second hand ticking around on the screen to see if I was “picking up” on something I merely had a “feeling”.
Also, the moderator did not say as multiple times to Harris, “Thank you, Senator. Your time is up.” Not at all as many times as she did to V.P. Pence which was harsher in tone, and the words rapidly said over’n’over’n’over again!!
I even screamed, “SHUT UP!” to the moderator!!!
Honestly, why are moderators picked to the “delightful” effect in favoring the liberal speaker over the conservative speaker? Isn’t there SOME WAY it could be a lot more fairer?
That’s my “little bit”, I’m wondering about.
I’m glad the rest of you are able to pick up on how well Pence did and what Harris did not do well.
Thank you for your insights.

JohnH
JohnH
5 years ago

Both agreed to rules of debate, which was 2-minutes time with no interruptions from other person. Same with Trump at his 1st debate, he continued to talk during other person time & would not respect moderator & quit this. Now , Pence does similar thing as he continued to talk for several seconds over his allotted time almost every time & did not respect the moderator. Both Trump & Pence showed that they could be rattled by the other & just had to defend their points. Debates this election are being ruined by poor behaviors.

Joyce Gibson
Joyce Gibson
5 years ago

I think VP Pence did a remarkable job; however, my main concern is that the general population is not seeing through the Biden/Harris lies, because, have no doubt about it, Harris lied as much as Biden. This is the most important election in my lifetime and I want everyone to know what a good President Trump has been and that we need him and Pence for another 4 years. We also have to take back the House and the Senate to get Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer OUT.

Matthew G Zatkalik
Matthew G Zatkalik
5 years ago

What ‘could have been said’, will always be shared by individuals who, although they were not subject to the stress of the event, who were not – at a moment’s notice – called upon to speak, and/or rebut, and/or challenge what the moderator was saying, and/or what the opponent was saying, and respond to what their position is regarding the statement or question made by the moderator. All things considered, Pence is ‘presidential’ now and later! Harris is neither material for Vice President – nor, God forbid – President, when Biden’s ‘marbles’ completely hit the floor.

Keith H
Keith H
5 years ago

Total LIES out of the mouth of Heels Up Harris. Their are videos of her and Pedo Joe saying the exact opposite of what she claims. I have seen them. Anyway, bottom line, a vote for these fools will mean total destruction of America !! China runs the Demoncrat Party !! Along with George “The Nazi” Soros. And the U.N. No wonder she lost the Dabate. She’s as phony as a 3 dollar Bill !!

mike
mike
5 years ago

Pence did just fine.He bent over backwards to be civil because the left was going to pull the mysogeny card. She, to me, was arrogant , used falsehoods and talking points instead of facts because she couldnt defend the undefensible. The simple fact she is as worthless as old joe. What a waste Clearly they are all fraudulent. Look at how quick the debate commission (all never trumpers0 changed their tactics for the next debate. Virtual? I dont think so. Cheat and wear a wire like the last “debate”.

JohnH
JohnH
5 years ago

Trump set a good example today: ” He said Kamala was a communist & a monster”. Very presidential !!!!!!!!

GT Patriot
GT Patriot
5 years ago

Kamala was so weak that CNN was apologizing for her last night and did not even bring up the debate tonight.
They went straight in to Trump bashing and did not even mention last nights debate.

GT Patriot
GT Patriot
5 years ago

Game, set, match ! Ridiculous. Kamala wasn’t even the badgerer she was expected to be. She was lulled into
being semi-decent ( a change for her) by Pence who is a gentleman who made his points, stayed focused and calm,
and seemed to regard Kamala as a pretender which she is. Kamala was a huge letdown from what the dems expected.

Jeanette Fenton
Jeanette Fenton
5 years ago

sounds like he did a great job! hooray

Dino Deplorable
Dino Deplorable
5 years ago

Sloppy joe and less than reputable,what a freaking combination to attempt to be in control of AMERICA.And just another note”free ain’t free”,someone has to pay and its ALWAYS the people that still have to work for a living not the soros’s or the bloombergs or the nobambas or clinstones,it always the working AMERICAN.

Frank Cowles
Frank Cowles
5 years ago

I could see the moderator was biased ,the questions were biased and VP Pence performed superbly . It’s a shame to call Ms Harris a senator and I personally feel she must represent some other country .

MariaRose
MariaRose
5 years ago

I enjoying listening to the VP debate and noticed all the nuisances which the left seem to purposely ignore while concentrating on a fly which apparently was on camera on Mike Pence’s white hair. It seems even the camera people were leftist and totally forgot to be professional with the camera focus.

Wayne Peterkin
Wayne Peterkin
5 years ago

These debates are all meaningless in my opinion and I refuse to waste my time on them. This election is very simple:

Either choose the very real and very significant accomplishments by President Trump over the last four years or the complete lack of meaningful accomplishments by Biden over the past 45 years.

Frankly, President Trump’s accomplishments have been a major surprise, outstanding really. Considering the unprecedented and dishonorable effort of the Democrats including their media allies to torpedo his term by any means necessary including outright lies, those accomplishments were not expected. To keep this short I will not start to list those accomplishments in this note, but it would be easy and they absolutely exist.

No debate, no new and probably phony accusations against the president, nothing is likely to change my opinion and make me vote for Biden, nor will I stay home and not vote. Four good years against 45 mediocre years at best = No contest.

Simple choice. 

John A. Fallon
John A. Fallon
5 years ago

I am sick and tired of hearing the msm LIES about TRUMP being behind chinajoe in the “polls”, the only “polls” they talk about are the ones being “taken” by the socialist/dems, without cheating the dems would never get elected, I want truth! I want law and order! I want justice! I want my GOD GIVEN RIGHTS! VOTE TRUMP, RED, KAG, KAH,SAVE AMERICA FOR OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN!
Confirm BARRETT NOW.

Waymon Toles
Waymon Toles
5 years ago

I may be totally off base, but I would love to have any candidate actually provide an answer to the question that was asked instead of throwing in some inane comment that has little or nothing to do with the question asked. It would be refreshing to see the candidate actually address the subject matter.

Larry W
Larry W
5 years ago

MISINFORMATION from Trump’s Doctors? REALLY? That was part of a question to VP Pence by Susan Page. Pence should have called her out and told her to rephrase the question. Page never used that word in a question to Harris, Harris spouted out more misinformation about Covid than truth!

Par
Par
5 years ago

Harris did not have substance. Just kept harping on the pandemic. Regardless of any political party in office, the responsibility to ease the pain is on the individuals. There are many inconsiderate idiots out there that have little respect for theirs as well as the health of others by not wearing face coverings and social distancing.

The question on climate control was ridiculous. There have been drastic wild fires for hundreds of years and our current climate has little to do with it, especially California.

The man reason for the Earth temperature rising is the massive developments. Heat during the day is absorbed in the concrete and structures. It takes a long time to dissipate. The result in temp rise because the heat has not disinpated by day break then begins to absorb more heat, causing rise in temperature. Southern California is now one massive concrete jungle of a heat sink.

Michael Menges
Michael Menges
5 years ago

Well written and thought out. Hopefully, the President will heed your advice on following his VP’s lead on debate tactics. Also, let Sleepy Joe ramble uninterrupted and dig his own hole. If POTUS doesn’t listen to some coaching advice, he will doom us all to the mercy of the left.

David Midkiff
David Midkiff
5 years ago

She seems to me like a very evil woman. She was very arrogant and assertive. She lied quite a few times and was always attacking the potus. She didn’t mention any plans that they have other than what President Trump was already doing. As far as I am concerned Vice President Pence ate her lunch.

JohnH
JohnH
5 years ago

Debates: Both candidates should be required to answer question asked by the moderator. Both are asked same question and should not evade question by grasping for get out of jail free card. If they do not answer question, they are hiding something. The debate is worthless if questions are not answered in my opinion.

JohnH
JohnH
5 years ago

Very disappointed in Harris/Pence debate last night. Both debaters rambled on about stuff without ever answering question asked of them. Pence was like Trump in the sense that he would keep talking for several more seconds after moderator told him time was up . Pence did not heed this warning from moderator & moderator could not get him to stop. I call the debate a draw, but purely politics from both sides. Did not know that Pence could be so rude to someone like moderator.

carol
carol
5 years ago

This moderator was anything but impartial! She let Harris have the last word on every question and cut off Pence as soon as she could, especially when he was making a point that might make the Trump administration look good. Harris lied so many times I was waiting for her nose to grow! And the way the Democrats talk about the American people makes me sick. Harris is just as condescending as all the other Democrats thinking we can’t survive without leftist in control! Was glad to see Pence challenge her and ruffle her feathers cuz she needed it!

General Patton
General Patton
5 years ago

They call that-bitc_-slapping the ho! God Bless Mike Pence an American Patriot that loves his country.

MAGA 2020

Garye
Garye
5 years ago

Harris was snotty, condescending , dishonest, and is a far far left socialist that would destroy Our Country.
Wake up America they are coming for Your Freedom!
The choice is unbelievable support for President Trump!

GRELLA GRELLA
GRELLA GRELLA
5 years ago

I watched the entire VP debate . Pence won on technical correctness . He had command of all the issues . Lets face it. The entire race is about the fantastically successful first term of Trump/Pence. Harris offered “tried and failed” ideas. Of course the Dems had to offer something. But she was old and stale. The Democrats are running on Liberalism, Socialism , but these ideas have failed EVERYWHERE they were tried. I think they keep putting up these old nag of ideas because they have nothing else to offer. To me , Democrats just don’t make any sense .

Daniel Arnold
Daniel Arnold
5 years ago

I was at work last night glad vice President hail his own you can write several pages of FyI on harris as attorney general’s of cal and info if interest Deleted by wikipedia funny Chris wallace son of senior wallace CBS 60 minutes Chris is no moderator like his Dad average journalist Susan page like washington post anti Trump company proud to be with amac 4 vote Trump pence Biden Harris is plagiarism like 1988 2008 2020 another bad ticket like mondale Ferraro ticket they did have sence no plan these 2 have no sense no plan

Bill Brown
Bill Brown
5 years ago

Get our Children our of Public Schools and turn-off Mainstream Media!  Become a Free American!!  Join the Trump Movement – The American Revolution 2.0!!!  Become a Counter-Revolutionary!!!  Stand-up for Our Republic!!!!  Remove Every DemocRat!!!!!

Bill Brown
Bill Brown
5 years ago

If we all get out and VOTE, YES we, the true AMERICAN Citizens CAN win back the House and hold the Senate!  Join the Trump Movement – The American Revolution 2.0!!!  Become a Counter-Revolutionary!!!  Stand-up for Our Republic!!!!  Remove Every DemocRat!!!!!

Bill Brown
Bill Brown
5 years ago

The DemocRats, The Media, Teachers Unions, etc. try to make us believe they are invincible!  They ARE NOT!  Push back against the bullies!! Join the Trump Movement – The American Revolution 2.0!!!  Become a Counter-Revolutionary!!!  Stand-up for Our Republic!!!!  Remove Every DemocRat!!!!!

Bill Brown
Bill Brown
5 years ago

First, thank you Mike Pence for being OUR VP and supporting OUR President, Donald Trump! This debate AGAIN proved that we do not have an independent Media in our Country. Today, the Media, including mush of Fox, are Communists who are trying to make OUR Country the United Socialist States of America!! All public funding to the Mainstream Media should be immediately cut-off, including PBS!! Join the Trump Movement – The American Revolution 2.0!!!  Become a Counter-Revolutionary!!!  Stand-up for Our Republic!!!!  Remove Every DemocRat!!!!!

ken
ken
5 years ago

After watching snarky Harris it made me almost like Hilliary——Almost

Walter
Walter
5 years ago

KH lack of policy knowledge, failure to answer questions and bobble headed facial expressions are no match for the truth! She lacks honesty. Can you imagine KS as our President? I can’t. VP Pence was calm and knew the facts and like the President , a man of action-they get things done.. He did a great job! I’m not to crazy on the commentator Page. It seems the first two debate commentators strongly lean to the left. It has been very difficult for President Trump and VP Pence and the rest of us Conservatives to get a fair shake. Why is it? For the rest of us middle class, Biden will destroy us. He will remove Trumps tax relief and tax the heck out of us-and that’s just part of it. As far as the COVID-this is not President Trump’s or VP Pence’s fault. They have done everything they can to get a vaccines and medicines out ASAP; and vaccines are not fool proof. This process takes forever and we have moved ahead quite rapidly. I suspect we have done a lot more than most other affected countries. As far as the 200K + tragic American deaths, I would like to know the breakdown by age, and pre-existing conditions-like Heart problems, DM, CA, etc. Because the Virus may contribute to the deaths but may not be solely responsible for them. It is still sad about losing our people due to the Chinese mismanagement of the problem. Maybe if the Dems were more concerned about Intel vs trying to impeach our President, maybe they could have been of great help to stop this Virus. If Biden had a plan in Mar. why didn’t he announce it? Wasn’t Finstein in charge of Intel at one time and have a Chinese spy working for her for 18 years-why is she still in office. Seems like she can’t get out of her own way-just like the rest of the bobble headed Democrats. Make no mistake, the Biden’s are in bed with China and American big money. To save our Great country, WE all need to vote Trump/Pence.

Dennis
Dennis
5 years ago

MR PENCE IS A VERY SMART MAN AND MADE harris LOOK LIKE THE FOOL THAT SHE IS. SHE IS A DISGRACE TO THE HUMAN RACE.

Carol Palin
Carol Palin
5 years ago

I am sure many will remember the news a few years ago. I recently read a news report on planned parenthood being exposed WITH PROOF ON TAPE illegally selling aborted baby parts in California. Kamala Harris was the attorney general. She did not prosecute PP for proven illegal acts, but charged the videographers with something – i can’t remember quite what. This shows her character.

L.Gregory
L.Gregory
5 years ago

Kaaa-BOOM!

charliearlie
charliearlie
5 years ago

Great job by VP Pence! He totally dismantled Harris, but did it calmly and politely and didn’t have to raise his voice! She came off looking like a petulant child, as usual. Her smirking and laughter are extremely annoying.

sandstar
sandstar
5 years ago

Harris is an attorney and last nite she acted like she was in a courtroom…she acted defensive, used drama, emotion, lies, intimidation and other tactics like she was trying to win a case in a courtroom…no wonder bland Biden choose her…she kept saying she and Joe had talked about this or that…but you can bet she was telling him how she would handle things…felt like watching Hilary all over again

Arizona Don
Arizona Don
5 years ago

The communist in the main stream media are claiming Harris won the debate. I watched the debate and that is not true.  Furthermore, I do not need anyone left or right to inform me of who won if I watched it I am able to make up my own mind.  However, this debate much like the presidential debate was loaded with lies from these so called democrats. It is also impossible to reason with a lying unreasonable person. The only good these debates do is expose the lies to those smart enough to see them which rules out most democrats.  

These democrats are indoctrinated making them for the most part socialistic communists or marxist make no mistake about that!  Their goal just like Obama’s promised fundamental transformation is a communist nation with total control over everything. Want an example look very closely at Venezuela. Or perhaps Cuba! Much like the United States Venezuela was once successful and quite affluent. Now they starve and medical care like food is nearly non-existent.  But that is exactly what these so called democrats here in the US are promoting like it or not!  

Alma Lee
Alma Lee
5 years ago

While Harris did nothing but Lie, condemn and lecture against President Trump, she in arrogance had the audacity to say she would not be lectured by Vice President Pence! The truth and the facts got under her skin and it showed in her weak and shaky voice at times, and in her demeanour! Vice President Pence, aside from being armed with the truth and the facts, had a calm and gentle spirit, and was a gentleman with confidence…The Victor!

Mandy
Mandy
5 years ago

I could hardly stand to listen to Harris and what she must believe is her “cutesy whiney” voice tone. Women need to speak like Margaret Thatcher or Elizabeth Dole did and not as Harris last night.

Carol Greer
Carol Greer
5 years ago

Am totally disgusted with the 2 on 1 debates. The moderator should be neutral.

GeorgeW
GeorgeW
5 years ago

Ms. Harris’ debate style was depicted by her facial expressions of arrogance, cynicism, sarcasm and coyness. She should have realized and depended upon her skills, knowledge and abilities which she touted during the debate. She downgraded herself to other women as a result.
My daughter would not have pursued these gestures.

George Larner
George Larner
5 years ago

Biden would turn our country into a 3rd world country. The Democrat controlled cities are already there with high crime rates and rubbish heaps. The Left have that double standard of holding everyone else accountable, but they get a free pass.

Shirley Fowler
Shirley Fowler
5 years ago

I applaud VP Pence for his performance against both Harris and the leftist moderator (again). In my opinion President Trump should refuse to participate in any more debates as they are nothing more than serious debacles with a biased left agenda. There’s nothing fair about them because the Republicans are constantly on the defense in response to the lies being told plus the fact that they avoid answering the questions posed to them. Now if the next scheduled debate happens, not in-person but virtually, then all bets are off as Biden will have his party spoon feeding him everything, and don’t think they won’t! If the debates can’t be REAL debates they should be scrapped…just sayin’!!!

GKP
GKP
5 years ago

Watched the entire debate and Pence was great with all responses and called the witch Harris out for outright lies several times//This woman has a serious problem with her hate for America and the worst facial expressions that can exist// She is a phony fraud and Biden has dementia and the media is as phony as both// so in a few days the USA will elect 2 good men (TRUMP-PENCE) or 2 losers from the liberal garbage dump// Seems clear to me// also if the next debate is a virtual worthless program then TRUMP is right to not participate// Its a liberal idea to protect dementia JOE

Larry Moore
Larry Moore
5 years ago

The Democrats want a virtual debate against President Trump because they can cut his video and audio comments at will thus limiting his power to hold a true debate and make his point or contest their lies.

RJ from Arizona
RJ from Arizona
5 years ago

Wondered who Pence was debating, Harris or Hillary Clinton. They act the same, smugness and lies

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